Re Degrowth vs Ecomodernism
An interesting series of posts, here. Excerpt:
Poster 1
"While I completely agree with this critique of the Ecomodernist
Manifesto, I can't help thinking that the debate here is missing some
big picture synergy between the two arguments. We need to zoom out a long way to see this though, let me explain.
If humanity is ever to become a space faring race, traveling through the solar system and beyond, our capabilities and attitudes will likely have much in common with an advanced future version of what the Ecomodernists are describing (i.e. an enhanced and expanded version of the growth economy with a core technology driven view). I blogged on this idea back in 2013: http://blog.greenstage.co.nz/2...
What this Ecomodernist Manifesto is doing is effectively applying this
future space faring human race's capabilities to the here and now (and doing so before we have that capability, before we need to and in a situation where it is definitely not our best option).
What they are ultimately missing is the recognition that humanity is part of nature and that all life on earth is operating in a closed and finely interwoven and interdependent system. This view is fundamental
to maintaining humanities and all life on earths richness and strength (i.e. we are traveling on space ship Earth and humanity has rightly or wrongly managed to grab the controls).
Lets not screw it up (a steady state economy would be a safe approach from here), but lets also not lose sight of the bigger opportunities beyond Earth and the technologies and capabilities that vision will require. I also hope that humanity can grow some humility combined with what might be described as spirituality in the process. A good place to start would be recognizing that humanity and all life (or more specifically consciousness) is probably just the universe waking up and looking at itself in wonder."
An interesting series of posts, here. Excerpt:
Poster 1
"While I completely agree with this critique of the Ecomodernist
Manifesto, I can't help thinking that the debate here is missing some
big picture synergy between the two arguments. We need to zoom out a long way to see this though, let me explain.
If humanity is ever to become a space faring race, traveling through the solar system and beyond, our capabilities and attitudes will likely have much in common with an advanced future version of what the Ecomodernists are describing (i.e. an enhanced and expanded version of the growth economy with a core technology driven view). I blogged on this idea back in 2013: http://blog.greenstage.co.nz/2...
What this Ecomodernist Manifesto is doing is effectively applying this
future space faring human race's capabilities to the here and now (and doing so before we have that capability, before we need to and in a situation where it is definitely not our best option).
What they are ultimately missing is the recognition that humanity is part of nature and that all life on earth is operating in a closed and finely interwoven and interdependent system. This view is fundamental
to maintaining humanities and all life on earths richness and strength (i.e. we are traveling on space ship Earth and humanity has rightly or wrongly managed to grab the controls).
Lets not screw it up (a steady state economy would be a safe approach from here), but lets also not lose sight of the bigger opportunities beyond Earth and the technologies and capabilities that vision will require. I also hope that humanity can grow some humility combined with what might be described as spirituality in the process. A good place to start would be recognizing that humanity and all life (or more specifically consciousness) is probably just the universe waking up and looking at itself in wonder."
Poster 2, Reply from Short Attention Span Theatre:
"You really need to stop living in your fantasy world of space exploration. Degrowth is about connecting with nature and becoming a more tight-knit society, not about becoming space pioneers."
"You really need to stop living in your fantasy world of space exploration. Degrowth is about connecting with nature and becoming a more tight-knit society, not about becoming space pioneers."
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